Ben Golliver and Michael Pina open with an extended discussion of Tyler Herro's 37-point explosion in Game 4 of the East finals. Where does that night rank in NBA history for players at his age? Where did Herro come from? How does he compare to Celtics foils from years past? From there, Ben and Michael zoom out to see what's gone wrong for Boston and whether they are toast. Then, they dig into the Breonna Taylor ruling and how it impacted NBA players and coaches on Wednesday. What takeaway should players have about their advocacy on behalf of Taylor's family? Ben and Michael close with quick thoughts on the Western Conference finals and Billy Donovan's move to the Bulls before Michael unveils his latest episode of The Pod's Book Club. - Learn more about your ad-choices at