Basketball Buds: Zach Harper, Tom Haberstroh, BIG Wos, Anthony Mayes and The Athletic's Jon Krawczynski - Topics: - Jimmy Butler vs Tom Thibodeau - The BIG meeting - Jimmy's Discontent - Welcome Ethan - What does KAT want? - Bulls-ification of the Wolves - Team chemistry and not believing in teammates - Training camp starts next week! - Thibs as President a problem? - Scott Layden's role - KAT's defensive reputation (soft) - Future scenarios with and without Butler - Glen Taylor and Thibs - Flip Saunders vs Thibs - Fast tracking Wiggins and Towns - Thibs brought in too soon? - How much is Taylor paying attention? - Andrew Wiggins - Ethan & Allie Dog Park Etiquette - Daycare - Making new friends - Dogs allowed at bars - Wos, dogs and white people - Thibs traveling to LA to meet with Butler - What does this mean? - Towns and Wiggins are disappointments - Getting fair value for Butler - Logical destinations - Teams hiring NBA writers now? - Lee Jenkins Private Investigator - Wade cuts a 10 minute vid - Westbrook's knee worrisome? - Luka Doncic ballin' out - Who's better? Wiggins vs Booker - Lutefisk - Where you going for a Jucy Lucy? - What happened to small bags of Reese's Pieces? - End - - Support us on www.patreon.com/countthedings - Find us: www.countthedings.com - Social: @back2backpod @countthedings - - - - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices