In this clip, John Salley explained where the origin of the perceived beef between Michael Jordan and Isiah Thomas started. According to John, it was sparked by Isiah's nephew wearing a Chicago Bulls jersey which made Isiah develop a certain disdain for the Bulls. But John explained further that it wasn't personal. He also said that the story of MJ keeping Isiah off the Dream Team was a myth and in fact, it was Magic Johnson's doing which kept him from making the Olympic squad.
Later on, John Salley talked about the Bulls becoming a force only after Scottie Pippen assumed more responsibility and that the narrative around the "Bad Boys" of the Detroit Pistons was started by Phil Jackson.
F i l t e r & S o r t Filter & Sort
29 minutes
Aug 31, 2015
11 - Detroit Pistons 2015-16 Season Preview / 11 - Detroit Pistons 2015-16 Season Preview - - Learn more
11 - Detroit Pistons 2015-16 Season Preview / 11 - Detroit Pistons 2015-16 Season Preview - - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
1½ hours
Dec 19, 2014
The worst kind of terrible, Moose's future and Drummond's present / After a (too) long hiatus, the Detroit Bad Boys
The worst kind of terrible, Moose's future and Drummond's present / After a (too) long hiatus, the Detroit Bad Boys podcast is back! In this episode, Ben and Steve discuss a long list of topics: - What does it mean to be a Pistons fan after more than half a decade of losing? How long can and should the fanbase support a franchise that seems to lack a clear direction for improvement? Should the Pistons embrace the losing and hope for a good lottery pick, or cheer for a playoff run?Andre Drummond is coming alive!Rajon Rondo was traded to the Mavs – what does that tell the Pistons about Greg Monroe's trade value?What more does Jonas Jerebko need to do to play? - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
1½ hours
Nov 2, 2014
The good, bad and ugly from the Pistons' first three games / It's three games into the season and Stan
The good, bad and ugly from the Pistons' first three games / It's three games into the season and Stan Van Gundy's Detroit Pistons are still looking for their first win. Matt Watson, Mike Payne and Sean Corp of DetroitBadBoys.com discuss the good, the bad and the ugly from the first three losses. - - The Good: - Detroit's defense is (mostly) improved!Greg Monroe looked really good in his first game.Brandon Jennings recovered well from two bad games. - The Bad: - The offense is really bad so far. What happened to the improved 3-point shooting?Injuries have kept us from seeing what this team can truly do. - The Ugly: - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope has been awful. Josh Smith's silly "feud" with Kenneth Faried. - Questions going forward: - What will the rotation look like when everyone is healthy? - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
59 minutes
Aug 28, 2014
Andre Drummond goes to Spain, Gigi Datome stays in Detroit / Matt Watson and Sean Corp discuss Team USA's surprising
Andre Drummond goes to Spain, Gigi Datome stays in Detroit / Matt Watson and Sean Corp discuss Team USA's surprising decision to bring Andre Drummond to Spain for the FIBA World Cup. Also, we introduce the first #AskDBB segment, focusing on Drummond's development defensively and how soon until he drags the Pistons back into contention. Next, we dig into Gigi Datome's decision to turn down an offer to return to Europe, and whether he has a future in Detroit's rotation. Sean points out some surprising statistics about Detroit's new free agents and what that might mean for the Pistons' offense in 2014-15. Last but not least, longtime DBB commenter V. stars in our favorite FanPost of the week. - - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
46 minutes
Aug 15, 2014
Andre Drummond and Team USA, Greg Monroe and the QO / Matt Watson, Mike Payne and Kevin Sawyer of DetroitBadBoys.com
Andre Drummond and Team USA, Greg Monroe and the QO / Matt Watson, Mike Payne and Kevin Sawyer of DetroitBadBoys.com are joined by SBNation.com's Ricky O'Donnell, who attended Team USA's scrimmage Thursday in Chicago, to discuss Team USA's latest injury scare with DeMarcus Cousins, how that might affect Andre Drummond's chances to make the final roster and whether Pistons fans should even want Drummond to continue playing given the injury risk. - - Later, the DBB crew discuss the recent report that Greg Monroe has decided to sign Detroit's qualifying offer, which would make him an unrestricted free agent next summer, as well as Monroe's tweets denying the Pistons ever offered a contract in the first place. Is there hostility between Moose and Detroit's front office -- or is Monroe simply annoyed at the media for leaking one side of the conversation? And what role does DBB play in amplifying every rumor? - - Following Paul George's injury and reports that Roy Hibbert is on the block, are the Pacers falling apart -- and does that open the door for the Pistons? And should fans get excited about seeing the NBA's new 2014-15 schedule? Maybe not, but hey, it's still more fun than baseball. All that and more. - - If you enjoy the show, do us a solid and give us a good review on iTunes -- and be sure to read more at DetroitBadBoys.com. - - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
1 hour
Aug 7, 2014
Greg Monroe and the Pistons: When making the most money isn't enough / The Detroit Pistons are trying to make
Greg Monroe and the Pistons: When making the most money isn't enough / The Detroit Pistons are trying to make Greg Monroe the highest paid player in team history -- and it's still not enough. Sean Corp, Ben Gulker and Matt Watson discuss the latest news this week on the Detroit Bad Boys Podcast. - - Join the discussion about this podcast here. - - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
1 hour
Jul 31, 2014
The fit and future of the Detroit Pistons' newest players / Did the Detroit Pistons overpay for Jodie Meeks? Can
The fit and future of the Detroit Pistons' newest players / Did the Detroit Pistons overpay for Jodie Meeks? Can D.J. Augustin overtake Brandon Jennings for the starting job? Does Caron Butler have anything left? Will Spencer Dinwiddie play as a rookie? Sean Corp, Ben Gulker and Matt Watson discuss those questions plus the futures of Cartier Martin and Aaron Gray in the second episode of the Detroit Bad Boys Podcast, dedicated to discussing the Pistons' free agent and draft. Come for the conversation about the future, stay for Ben blaspheming Detroit's past. Plus, a special call out to our favorite FanPost of the week. - - Some relevant links mentioned in the podcast: - - Sean Corp: Jodie Meeks got paid, but didn't get overpaid - - Arturo Galletti at Boxscore Geeks: NBA Draft Preview and NBA Draft Grades - - Isiah Thomas shot 28.8 percent from 3-point land in 1983 ... and finished second in the league - - DBB reader ghost of Dumars' FanPost: Dennis Rodman may deserve another rebounding record - - Read more about the Detroit Pistons at DetroitBadBoys.com - - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
57 minutes
Jul 24, 2014
Talking about Josh Smith's future with the Detroit Pistons / Matt Watson and Sean Corp from Detroit Bad Boys discuss
Talking about Josh Smith's future with the Detroit Pistons / Matt Watson and Sean Corp from Detroit Bad Boys discuss the Sacramento Kings' interest in Josh Smith, how Stan Van Gundy might rebuild Smith's value and what the Pistons' rotation could look like if Smith, Greg Monroe and Andre Drummond all return. They also spend too much time talking about LeBron James' homecoming to the Cavaliers, what it means for the rest of the Central Division and whether the Pistons should expect to compete for a playoff spot in the suddenly competitive Eastern Conference. - - - - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
3 minutes
May 31, 2006May 31, 2006
May 31, 2006 - The Detroit Pistons stave off elimination in the 2006 Eastern Conference...
Ben Wallace Blocks Shaquille O'Neal (Sportscenter Coverage) / May 31, 2006 - The Detroit Pistons stave off elimination in the 2006 Eastern Conference Finals as center Ben Wallace records one of the most memorable blocked shots in NBA history by overpowering Miami Heat center Shaquille O'Neal's attempt to finish at the rim.
3 minutes
May 24, 2004
May 24, 2004 - Nursing a two point lead late in Game 2 of this...
Tayshaun Prince - The Greatest Block in NBA Playoff History... Until LBJ? / May 24, 2004 - Nursing a two point lead late in Game 2 of this Eastern Conference Finals series, Pistons forward Tayshaun Prince successfully chases down the Indiana Pacers' Reggie Miller and tallies Detroit's 19th block of the evening.
The Pistons would go on to win game 2 and eventually the series. Detroit would then defeat the Los Angeles Lakers in 5 games to win their first NBA championship in 14 years.
Contrary to the broadcast's assertions, this game did not set the all-time mark for combined blocked shots in a playoff game. That mark still belongs to the 1981 Game 1 performance between the Milwaukee Bucks and Philadelphia 76ers, who combined for 29 blocked shots. The 76ers also set the single-game mark with 20 (thanks to Corey Rondeau for the cite).
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200405240IND.html
5 minutes
2008
Ben Wallace joins ‘The Ryen Russillo Podcast’ to discuss the Pistons’ approach to containing Shaq,...
Ben Wallace on Facing Shaq and Kobe in the 2004 Finals / Ben Wallace joins ‘The Ryen Russillo Podcast’ to discuss the Pistons’ approach to containing Shaq, Kobe, and the Lakers for their 2004 championship.
Listen to the full podcast: https://www.theringer.com/2022/5/12/23069116/did-the-bucks-punch-their-finals-ticket-what-to-make-of-the-warriors-historic-loss-plus-ben-wallace
1½ hours
Dec 6, 1988Dec 6, 1988
Milwaukee Bucks v Detroit Pistons
6th December 1988 @ Bradley Center on WKBD-TV
Commentary: George Blaha &...
Bucks vs Pistons in Milwaukee / Milwaukee Bucks v Detroit Pistons
6th December 1988 @ Bradley Center on WKBD-TV
Commentary: George Blaha & Dick Motta with Bob Lanier
Box Score: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198812060MIL.html
23 minutes
1989–2004
In the world of NBA simulations, the 1989 Detroit Pistons, also known as the "Bad...
1989 Detroit Pistons vs 2004 Pistons • 3-on-3 Blacktop Simulation / In the world of NBA simulations, the 1989 Detroit Pistons, also known as the "Bad Boys", are about to face off against the 2004 Pistons in a 3-on-3 Blacktop match. The 1989 Pistons, known for their physical and aggressive style of play, were the champions of their era, marking the end of the Lakers and Celtics dominance and paving the way for the Bulls' dynasty. On the other hand, the 2004 Pistons were the underdogs who defied the odds to clinch the title in a season dominated by star-studded teams. This simulation is set in September, the off-season, a time typically used for teams to regroup and strategize. However, in this alternate reality, we're about to witness a clash of two generations, each with their own unique style and approach to the game.
In the context of the NBA, both the 1989 and 2004 Pistons represent the city's blue-collar spirit and the franchise's ability to assemble championship teams without relying on superstar talent. The 1989 team, coached by Chuck Daly, was known for its "Bad Boys" image and used a physical style of defense that was later curtailed by rule changes. The 2004 team, under the guidance of Larry Brown, won by emphasizing team play and strong defense, which was a contrast to the more superstar-focused teams of the era. This match brings together two different eras of basketball, offering a unique perspective on how the game has evolved.
John Salley shared his thoughts on Jalen Rose telling VladTV that Salley needed to be...
John Salley Agrees with Jalen Rose: I Hate on Jordan Because I'm a "Bad Boy" / John Salley shared his thoughts on Jalen Rose telling VladTV that Salley needed to be drug tested for saying that Scottie Pippen is the most skilled NBA player that he ever played against. Salley explained that Jalen is "100% right" in his assessment that John's role as a member of the Detroit Pistons "Bad Boys" is the reason he can't say Jordan is the most skilled.
38 minutes
1988
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Magic Johnson & Isiah Thomas 1-on-1 Interview /
48 minutes
Feb 17, 2024
In an engaging conversation filled with nostalgia and respect, Indiana basketball legends Reggie Miller, Larry...
Indiana Glory with Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, and Isiah Thomas / In an engaging conversation filled with nostalgia and respect, Indiana basketball legends Reggie Miller, Larry Bird, and Isaiah Thomas reminisced about their illustrious careers, sharing insights and memories that highlight their impact on the game. The discussion took a playful start with a light-hearted debate about coming in second in a shooting contest, setting the tone for a journey through basketball history.
Larry Bird, known for his incredible shooting ability, shared anecdotes about his career, including his record-breaking performances and his approach to the game. His story about returning to play after a concussion during a critical playoff game against the Pacers underlines his competitive spirit and dedication.
Isaiah Thomas, reflecting on his time with the Detroit Pistons, spoke about the intense rivalry with Bird's Celtics and the challenges of leading a team to the NBA Finals. Thomas also touched on the controversial comments about Bird and the profound respect he holds for him, highlighting Bird's gracious response that defused potential tension.
Reggie Miller, the host, shared his admiration for both Bird and Thomas, expressing regret for not delivering a championship under their coaching. The conversation also delved into the evolution of basketball, with discussions about the art of trash-talking, the impact of iconic players on the game, and the transition from playing to coaching.
Bird and Thomas offered their perspectives on current NBA stars, praising the talents of Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Kevin Durant, while also reflecting on the game's evolution and the future of basketball. Their commentary on the potential for players to reach scoring milestones and the strategic changes in the NBA underscores their deep understanding and love for the game.
Ryan, Channing, and Fred sit down with one of the most iconic athletes who just...
Isiah Thomas 12x NBA All Star on Detroit Bad Boys, Magic Johnson & Feud w/ Michael Jordan / Ryan, Channing, and Fred sit down with one of the most iconic athletes who just happens to be their long time idol, NBA hall of famer, Isiah Thomas. The original Bad Boy of Detroit Pistons is opening up and talking everything from his relationship with Magic Johnson to Detroit Pistons changing the game to sharing his side of the infamous Michael Jordan feud.
Isiah starts the show saying very simply that he is going to state facts and you can’t argue facts and that it’s one thing to win a championship in the NBA but it’s another to win a championship at every level ever played.
Growing up on the West Side of Chicago, Isiah shares how his upbringing was shaped by his mother’s guidance and a family first mentality where his mother cared more about the type of man he’d become vs the money and opportunity being offered. His mom’s influence was so great, it became her decision where he played college basketball and also who he played for.
Explaining how he ended up in Bloomington, Indiana playing for Bobby Knight, he expounds on the life lessons that shaped him there not just winning back to back collegiate championships.
The West Side of Chicago is home to many activists and organizations such as Fred Hampton, Martin Luther King Jr, and The Black Panther Party. Isiah grew up in this environment and recalls marching alongside his mother with Dr.King. Spearheading change at the national level, Isiah used his local groundwork in Detroit to advocate for Black journalists covering the team, more rights for Black NBA players leaving a greater impact with his legacy not just on the court but in culture.
Isiah makes his case known for why so many people overlook Detroit Pistons as transcending the NBA and shares what the team really did for the league and how they were the firsts to do many things back then setting the example of how teams should be and move.
Known for his historic rivalry with Michael Jordan, Ryan asks what were his thoughts on the way his character was portrayed by Jordan in The Last Dance. Isiah provides The Pivot with an exclusive inside look to his true relationship with MJ and goes on to say that he always looked out for Michael and that their families were even close. He also speaks about how rules within the NBA were changed to protect Michael Jordan. Isaih doesn’t hold back as he shares his thoughts on while he was deemed the a-hole of the NBA when in fact he was the nice guy.
Lastly, Isiah lets the guys in on the history of his and Magic’s close relationship and what led up to their legendary interview. He gives credit to the current legends playing the game such as Lebron James, Stephen Curry, and Kevin Durant, and says they’ve transformed the game in
2 hours
Dec 21, 1978Dec 21, 1978
Full game from the Superdome...
NBA New Orleans Jazz vs. Detroit Pistons / Full game from the Superdome
2½ hours
Jan 15, 1978Jan 15, 1978
1977/78 Season - NBA - Chicago Bulls @ Detroit Pistons, Full game with commercials....
Bulls vs Pistons at Cobo Arena in Detroit / 1977/78 Season - NBA - Chicago Bulls @ Detroit Pistons, Full game with commercials.
April 30, 1976 - After sneaking into the postseason with a 36-46 record, the Detroit...
Pistons' John Mengelt Hits the Deck, Young Mike Abdenour Arrives on the Scene (1976) / April 30, 1976 - After sneaking into the postseason with a 36-46 record, the Detroit Pistons took down the Milwaukee Bucks in the first round and nearly pushed the defending NBA champion Golden State Warriors to the brink in the Western Conference Semi-Finals. Late in Game 6, with their season on the line, Pistons guard John "Crash" Mengelt canned a jumper then drew a foul in the paint on back-to-back plays.
Mengelt's visible pain following his tumble sprung young Pistons trainer Mike Abdenour into action (red pants, blue shirt, sideburn, mustache, glasses). Abdenour went on to spend 35 years as the team's trainer, with a three-year stay in Philadelphia (1992-1995) wedged in-between. As of 2018, Abdenour remains on staff in Detroit, serving as Director of Team Operations, now in his 42nd year in the NBA.
Back to Game 6, two clutch blocks from Bob Lanier helped forced overtime before the Warriors ultimately brought the Pistons' season to an unceremonious close. Lanier's game-saving blocks can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMNhPxxQito
Three additional notes:
-The man in the tan jacket bending over next to Abdenour is Pistons head coach Herb Brown, brother of future Pistons head coach Larry Brown.
-Jerry West was working color commentary for Game 6.
-The Detroit Pistons played in the Western Conference until 1979-80, hence the matchup with the Warriors.
Box Score: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/197604300DET.html
42 seconds
Apr 10, 1955Apr 10, 1955
George King's free-throw and steal seals the Syracuse Nationals' first NBA title....
Nationals defeat Pistons for the Title In 1955 / George King's free-throw and steal seals the Syracuse Nationals' first NBA title.